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Relegation battle
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Surely we can't be sucked into it?
I'm looking at the table thinking we have too many points, but I'm still worrying.
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You are a flange darling!
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We were 1000/1 to be relegated before today's match.
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One point from four 'winnable' games, including three against teams in the bottom seven.
We need to turn up and battle like hell at Shrewsbury, because they will. Burton were SO much better than us tonight.
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Burton have won four of their past seven games. Signing Bodvarsson in Jan was frightfully shrewd business. They looked far better than their league position indicates.
Tonight and Crawley was classic Boro'. I was more confident of us beating Huddersfield in our next home match than I was us winning tonight (took 4/1 on Burton and 9/4 on the draw tonight). You just know what we will do.
Edited by Chuds at 22:29:19 on 18th February 2025
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Would be so typically Stevenage to lose or draw 0-0 v Shrewsbury, then beat Huddersfield playing well, before losing to Cambridge!
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Shrewsbury's points and goal difference over the last six games is identical to ours. Should be a smashing game.
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Nailed on 0-0 then.
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Couple of the players probably have going on recently performances...
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Might have had a 0 knocked off that now...
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1000/1 still available this morning, 13 teams shorter odds than we are, including a certain team with a far more expensive side than ours, managed by a certain man who many seemingly want us to bring back, who are just 50/1.
Edited by Chuds at 09:38:36 on 19th February 2025
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I stuck £15 on us to go down before the season started, can't even salvage a tiny cash out
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What site was that on? Almost tempted 😂
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Bet365 still have us at 1000
Not that I checked and accidently slipped £2 on, no
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I lumped £3 on and it's now dropped to 500/1.
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At such odds it would only take a couple/few fans backing it and their liabilities on the market would massively skew and need them to amend the odds, particularly on a market they won't do a great deal of volume.
Out of interest, did it accept your whole stake immediately or did some need authorising by a Trader first?
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Went to some trader for a few seconds which I thought was strange given the size of the bet.
Admittedly I hardly ever bet and just did this for a laugh. Only really do stuff like The Grand National, so don't know if this commonplace.
Edit. Like Andy part of the stake was pre accepted, but part went to them.
Edited by RockyBottom at 15:51:21 on 19th February 2025
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It is the size of the return rather than the bet itself, it will be commonplace on long odds selections within low volume markets (something like a Premier League match that has loads of money on it would have a higher return permitted prior to requiring Trader approval).
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Mine said 0.50p was allowed and £1.50 needed to be authorised by a trader, which then went through.
First time I have seen that, but I don't bet very often
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I think a few on here have put a £2 on.
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At least Borochat will be a happy place if we did go down 🤣
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£2k in the bank, season ticket for next season sorted as we romp league 2 with Revs at the helm
What's not to like?!
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Cuthbert will be manager then with Revs as his assistant
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Which stand you getting your ST in, boi?
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Wonder if this will lead to fewer wanting Revs sacked 😂
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Obviously hoping that we aren't relegated but 1000/1 is seriously tempting...
Edited by BrummieBoro at 10:22:12 on 19th February 2025
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We could maybe stay up with the points we already have - 3 points and almost certainly safe , 10,000 - 1 should be the price.
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Still think we need another 3 wins/9 points to absolutely make sure of safety.
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49 points I think was the average needed. Someone will know better than me.
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Does seem a bit long I must say, and Crawley and Burton are both far too short IMO.
We ain't going down, mind, but would understand if people put on a quid or two.
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Skybet have more confidence in us, only 150/1 on there
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SkyBet are utter pricks who ban people instantly.
As are most. Only got about five accounts left active, from 50-odd.
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What reasons do they give for banning you? 'You win money rather than giving us your life savings, we don't want your kind'?
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None. Pretty much always a "Our Traders have reviewed your account and we have limited/restricted/closed it. Our decision is final and will not be reversed.".
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Mental that they're allowed to do that and there has not been a bigger backlash against it. Aware there was at least one tv programme about it.
Any other industry and there would surely be some kind of anti-discrimination law against it
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Their T&C when you register say they can close an account without notice, so they just lean on that.
I just checked my spreadsheet (I have a record of my full P&L with everyone) and have had 24 accounts closed or restricted. Lolz.
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Why do they pull it? Are you too successful?
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There will be three main reasons they would restrict or ban.
1) You only participate in their offers (price boosts, matched free bets etc.) and don't do any casual betting with them. They will restrict you from all offers, but allow you to continue to bet. Ensure you place semi-occasional normal bets with them to avoid that.
2) The markets you bet on demonstrate you know what you are doing and are only specialising in certain markets that don't get much trade, so may have better/as good knowledge as their odds-compilers/traders. Things like only betting on The Challenger Tour (second tier) in tennis and winning fairly often, or Mexican baseball, or Northern Prem football, or more niche stuff. Most of their focus will be on pricing up the main competitions within that sport, so you are a risk to them if they think you know what you are doing. Placing some "mug" bets will help with trying to not get banned with that, so putting on a stupid acca every Saturday in the Prem and EFL, that is on mainstream events and normally loses.
3) You win too much/often. Which is linked to point two really. If you only bet on stuff you know and don't do loads of accas, which bookies LOVE you to bet on, hence promoting them all the time (with each additional selection in the bet you of course reduce your chances of winning, so you will win more when you do and so it will feel like you are really winning, but wins are less frequent, and most people doing that will be down over a longer period even if kidding themselves they aren't because they remember a couple of big wins and don't realise how much all the little losses add up to).
All depends on your mentality towards it really. Most people do it for fun on a weekend, and are happy to lose a couple of quid on a big acca that could win big if it comes in, whereas I treat it as a contest to beat the bookies and as additional income, so stick to only stuff I know, aiming for regular smaller wins that add up to decent reliable profit across the year. Probably as I worked in the industry for eight years so saw it from the other side.
Edit: Crikey, that became a long post. Well done if you persevered with it, for absolutely no reward.
Edited by Chuds at 19:21:23 on 19th February 2025
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Nothibg to stop you using friends and family to place your bets is there?
So anyone seriously looking to earn good money will find a way.
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"Catie" is restricted from lots too 😂
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So, they basically ban people because they can't be arsed to pay for manpower to price up some of the stuff you can bet on. Amazing
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It is a shitty industry with all the cards stacked in the house's favour, with a regulator that is as useful as OFWAT/OFGEM are.
In my view if a bookie offers a market, anybody should be able to put on as much as they like, without being restricted or banned by the bookie (unless you are suspected of illegal activity, or self-exclude). Any restrictions put on a promotion or market should apply to all customers or none, so a price boost for instance should carry a max bet of a tenner for all, not 50 quid for some and 10p for others, if they can even place it at all.
I daresay some would liken it to a landlord being able to bar people from their pub, but are they able to just do that on a whim or must there be actual reason? I dunno.
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They can ban who they like, for no reason or because they dont spend enough/lose enough. It's their premises/business.
(They can't discriminate on the basis of protected characteristics like race, ethnicity, gender, sensuality etc. tho').
If I was a bookie I'd focus on fixed odds betting like bingo, fruit machines etc. , it's literally a licence to print money with a guaranteed % profit. (Anyone who gambles on fixed odds machines/sites is either stupid or addicted).
At least you utilise knowledge when deciding what to back.
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 21:02:37 on 19th February 2025
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*sensuality 🤣
‘You’re not coming in my pub, being all sensuous you sensuous bastard’ 😁
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Betting patterns I imagine. They can spot a professional gambler. Like Casinos chuck out card counters.
That or they're concerned he's a gambling addict and they take their social and moral responsibilities seriously phahaha.
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When the fun stops, stop.
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Like watching Boro then? 😊
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Our current record is one win in five(?) against the bottom four.
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We will need to pick up some more points which I'm sure we will. Just frustrating playing the bottom 5 in 6 games and looking like not ending up with many points from it currently.
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Anything worth mentioning from first half.
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They hit the underside of the bar twice in a minute.
And scored. Deservedly so.
And we are second to everything, especially in midfield and look a bit toothless apart from Kemp.
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We'll score 3 times second half and you'll look very foolish.
Mark my words.
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Can't get any worse... Can it?
Needs to be one of those game of two halves.
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Just did with that penalty miss...
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Anything that involves getting a goal should be left to Kemp. He is the only player that can shoot on target or in open play attempt a shot.
Edit: actually that's unfair on Louis Thompson who pops up every now and then with a decent shot.
Edited by Sev at 21:03:14 on 18th February 2025
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Agreed Reid's better when it's instinctive.
Have to win v 10 men surely.
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2 late goals like against Northampton perhaps.
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Nope just #Borocharity at it's finest.
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Tactically
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As soon as they went down to 10 men take off Freestone and replace with Edwards . Freestone has done fantastic covering for Butler and is a solid defender but not an attacking full back . We were losing at home to a 10 men relegation team . Freestone was not needed defensively in the second half but got plenty of the ball in attack . Far too cautious.( Revs not Freestone , who actually continued to aid the attacks )
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I wasn’t there, but it sounds like utter despair. How are we losing away against freakin’ Crawley and at home to 10-man Burton?! Are we really so clueless, so devoid of skill or attacking intent, that even with an extra man playing for us we continue to lose to basement sides? We had a chance to go 10th tonight yet couldn’t turn up even with an extra player and 5 substitutions! Christ alive. Does anybody here reasonably see us beating Shrewsbury currently?
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People said the same before Mansfield, Barnsley and Wrexham. We won them all.
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Indeed, and they were good performances, but I’m frustrated that we can win against tough opposition but struggle to overcome basement sides, particularly at home and with an extra player advantage. We have the talent - in all honesty, we do - and I don’t think the management team are dribbling incompetents, so what is it? Something in our team works on the tough occasions but doesn’t seem to when we’d expect the points. Think where we’d be if we were nailing basement sides - at least 9 points further along. Very dispiriting.
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I would really like to see us go to 3 at the back and playing against 10 men tonight (and against Wigan) were obvious opportunities to do that. It is a benefit of having a CB covering at FB that we could simply shift him inside, push Kane further forward with a winger on the other side. To continue with 4 at the back when Kane went off just did not make sense to me
I also thought it was crying out for Harvey to come on when they went down to 10 before I realised he wasn't in the squad! Freeman and Louis T don't quite offer the same creativity (although they do at least manage to drive the ball forward) and I would explore all other options before daring to move Kemp out of his best position
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