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Match thread
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I’m liking the line-up. And 4 of our most likely goal prospects on together (Reid, List, Kemp, Young) is a good move… I hope. We can’t exactly say Revs isn’t doing all he can.
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Re: Match thread
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Reflecting on last night. I think most agree that it was a pretty insipid display against ten men until the last five minutes.
However, the fact that the players kept going until they scored is a positive sign that they're, by and large, behind Revell. It's up to Revs to harness this and get the attacking game firing now. This, coupled with the reasonable-ish league position, buys him more time for me.
But, sweet Jesus, we can't be watching that every week for much longer.
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The reaction of Kemp to the bench after the goal celebrations also showed he is very much still on board.
As did the post-match stuff. Pidge was absolutely buzzing too, which pleased me greatly.
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Although of course, Revell was missing from the bench at that point 🙂
I don't think there has ever been any question that he had lost the dressing room as it were. Indeed the opposite has been more of a criticism, that the players like him too much.
League position is now above expectations (but it is early days).
League points satisfactory, although without two late goals I would have been getting very worried. I always think as long as you have more points than games played you have a chance of staying up.
Entertainment, not great but I'm not fussed if we win often enough and don't look like fodder. So yesterday no issue with at all as we came away with the points.
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Re: Match thread
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I said after the weekend that I remained confident we would absolutely stay up even if he remained all season, and that our performance was enough for me to believe he should get given this week, to build on it.
The performance was not as good last night, although Northampton sitting back didn't help with that (we looked more dangerous and were opening them up more against 11 than 10), but we got the result we needed. So job done there.
What must now happen is that we kick on and don't revert to going to Crawley and playing for the 0-0. Results are the most important, then performances. You feel last night probably earned him some more leeway, probably until Christmas. So if he doesn't pick up more wins before then, those who never wanted him get a lovely Christmas present, if he does, people should be happy that their team is winning matches.
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Re: Match thread
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Reflecting on last night. I think most agree that it was a pretty insipid display against ten men until the last five minutes.
I really don’t agree. We were dominant for all 95 minutes. Not easy to break down 9 players camped in their own half on a small pitch. Evans couldn’t do it either.
People wanked themselves silly when we beat Wrexham, when the only difference was that we went 1-0 up early.
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And how many times down many many years have we struggled to break down and score against anybody who comes and sits back? Loads.
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Yep, as soon as they went down to ten you could predict it was going to be an arduous task to break them down as it often is against 10.
It kind of ruined the game not just as a spectacle but also as a test case for those of us questioning Revell. Put him in a lose lose situation. If he wins it's "only because they had ten men" and if he loses it's "can't even beat 10 men".
So I'll defer my judgement to Saturday. Beat Crawley and I may have start eating humble pie. Lose and I'll be back to worrying that there isn't much sign of progression. Draw and it's as you were.
Edited by Sev at 13:31:09 on 4th December 2024
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I agree with this - it's great getting the three points, and you couldn't argue with the players' work rate or desire. But up until the 85th minute it was fairly dreadful stuff against a team barely trying to get out of their own half. We didn't move the ball quickly or accurately enough to stretch them and in my mind we scored because they were absolutely shattered and/or lost concentration, rather than us doing anything particularly effectively. The mood on the ET didn't seem like a positive one until we scored.
Hopefully it's enough to break the scoring hoodoo but we'll need to play much better than that to progress and beat better sides.
On a positive note, Kemp was very good - again. He's really picked up since the start of the season
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"in my mind we scored because they were absolutely shattered and/or lost concentration."
One could very much suggest both of those factors were a direct result of us dominating them for 90 minutes.
How many times do you see the top sides winning late on? Wrexham last night for instance, won 1-0 in the 93rd minute, probably after finally breaking through a staunch defence after dominating the game.
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That's a fair point - and our dominance plus their lack of desire to attack probably contributed to them being worn out. I just felt it was more attritional rather than a result of us doing anything particularly well.
It will be interesting to see if we can carry the goalscoring into Saturday against a team you would assume would attack more than 10-man Northampton
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Ok, here’s my updated thoughts.
I expected we’d do well tonight on that lineup, but they didn’t exactly set the world on fire. With the red card I thought we’d actually do something to win, but by the time we’d got to about 85 minutes it was clear to me that my earlier optimism had been misplaced - we can’t score against, much less beat, 10 men, at home with all four of our goal threats on the pitch. Boring, invention-less, headless football that from all the side-to-side football looked like Revs was playing for a 0-0 draw. At 88 mins I was in despair and was beginning to wonder who in this league we were ever actually going to win against.
The hilarious irony is that when we finally did get round to doing a couple of goals, it was while Revs wasn’t actually there to instruct the team! Tells you everything really. Doubly funny is the fact that I hadn’t even realised Revs had been sent off at HT until I saw it on facebook a few minutes ago!
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Breaking down 10 men in a low block is never conducive to 'great football'. It enforces a sort of stalemate, until, like last night, you patiently break it. Then another goal soon follows. Resistance broken. In football terms this is evidenced in the first half, when Northampton were higher, and easier to get behind - see E.List burning up the supposedly rapid Guinness-Walker. That was direct, but effective, and it caused Northampton loads of problems.
Beyond that, it is obvious that people need to realign their lofty expectations, and see last night as progress.
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On Guiness-Walker I certainly wouldn't want him as a left back but as a left wing back thought he could do a job had we kept him. But obviously we don't play that formation so surplus to requirements.
Was good to List has still got that bit of pace as a threat/option
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Very true. It was always going to be hard after the red card.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and play with tempo and a bit of guile, draw them on a bit and then move the ball very quickly, and break into spaces, so often I could see huge spaces, or.players in good spaces, in their half, aching to be exploited but we took another touch or safe pass and lost the momentum and they'd reset in their two defensive banks
I'm.all forpatience at the right time, and you can argue it won us the game, but a bit of flair would be nice. List and Kemp can both do flair.
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Genius tactics
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Have no shots on goal against 10 men, then hit them in the last minute.
Boom!
Edited by Original Mr Wasp at 22:40:42 on 3rd December 2024
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BOOM?.....we are as bad at scoring goals as those blokes trying to put a football in a black plastic bin!
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Fairly sure we managed 3, albeit tame shots on goal. 2 saves, plus 1 blocked near the line.
Not that we were good, we were way too.predictable and methodical in our build up, and too easy to defend against.
We let them get back into their shape every time by paying 2-3 balls across the back before.pushing or pumping the ball forward.
Pidge did deliver 3-4 great long passes to Butler and Kemp though, they weren't all aimless hoofs. It was just that the backline was set and waiting for them.
List and Kemp the bright sparks.for me.first 50-60 minutes, then List got bored of not being spotted and stopped making the runs.
Reid was largely anonymous, one good snapshot from the edge of the box just wide, nothing else of note and little.movement til his goal.
White flattered to decieve for the most part.
Back line never troubled, Plenty of opportunities to get the FBs forward.
Our pressing was non existent for the most part without Roberts.
But, a win is a win. Let's hope it breeds a bit of confidence, enables us to get something Saturday at Crawley and build.
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 09:32:45 on 4th December 2024
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 09:33:33 on 4th December 2024
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Re: Genius tactics
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what about Pidge's two great balls to List in the first half? Another post focussing on the 2nd half when Northampton were set up to do nothing but frustrate.
I haven't been to that many games this season. But it strikes me that reality is some distance away from most boro fans. Or at least most of the regular posters on here.
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You'll have been to more games than me I'm sure.
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There's a difference between thinking "we'll probably finish 20th and I'd fine with it if we did" and actually living it. We're innately greedy creatures.
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Against 10 men we expected a win. Up to 88 mins we were all despondent and frustrated. To be honest, for me, that feeling didn't subside even with the two goals. The win was expected but the poor performance for 88 mins lived longer in the memory.
Kemp was the highlight for me.
Edited by Telboy at 08:29:31 on 4th December 2024
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Re: Match thread
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Great shift against a side who had no intention of attacking. I still wish we would try and play down the middle more, we are a bit too predictable
So much better when White was subbed off.
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The red card made them harder to break down but we did it with patterns of play and persistence. King made a great cameo. Good to see Reidy back in the goals. Kemp is finding his feet now. My MOTM.
This is a step in the right direction. Let’s hope it’s a catalyst and not papering over the cracks.
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Re: Match thread
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I wish I hadn't watched the game because I'd be a lot more optimistic just seeing that we won 2 nil.
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Never been so underwhelmed after a 2.0 win. Kemp my MoTM
1st half had interest by virtue of the needle between Eaves and Pidge.
Of course I’m delighted we won and agreed 10 can be harder than 11 to breakdown.
Pleased for Reidy and hopefully will spark some momentum and confidence
But let’s be honest we weren’t great after the sending off, and just delayed the inevitable for Breville
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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Well I bloody never.
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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Scored 15% of our league goals this season in two minutes
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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Thank fuck for that
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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Nick Freeman changing the game, because he's great
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Can I like this more than once? He brought so much more intensity and drive into the game which we sorely miss without Phillips
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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King is far better than White and he's only been on 10 mins
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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I don't think White plays it sideways enough
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Papers over the massive cracks.
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youre fuming 😂
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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It is a bitter sweet victory. Means we have to endure this shit for a few more months...
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Some people are never happy if we won every cup going there would still be people un happy
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Am I happy with the league position... yes.
Am I happy with the garbage served up every week to achieve it... no.
One or two games you could argue it's just one of those things. Especially in a game such as last night, where they parked the bus. It's every bloody game though.
The Sky commentary was basically laughing at how bad it was.
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Re: Match thread - A goal!!
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Correct.
Football is about results and entertainment.
Last night we got the result (which should be expected) and no entertainment. So I was mildly happy and very un-entertained.
The 2250 Boro fans in attendance (which will include ST no shows) should be enough of a marker for Phil, to show something is not right. This time last year we were all but selling out the stadium
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Wallace will have an idea of what is needed in terms of average attendance over the season.
The football wasn't GALACTIC. The crowd was shit. But still you aren't going to get your wet dream of Roy Race sailing in and taking over and leading us to promotion this season. Nope. We are going to be really inconsistent and finish about 17th.
I recommend Diazepam and strong continental lager.
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This time last year every midweek game, plus plenty of Saturdays, wasn't on TV, we hadn't already had four home midweek league games (which are almost always much lower) by this stage of the season, and we hadn't had SEVEN consecutive (and eight of the last nine) games at home, in the lead-up to Christmas. It was also freezing.
Recent performances and results also had an impact of course, but let us not pretend there are not also plenty of other factors at play here - the attendances across this season are holding up well for us.
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Sky sports may be a factor in that too.
It's an expensive time of year, it's cold out and performance have been poor. If you can watch on TV, then may as well do...
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Yep, that's the spirit.
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And more. This is the peak for our club. Strap in and enjoy it
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Peak of what? Mind numbing football?
If that's what success and glory looks like, I'd prefer to be two divisions lower than having to watch that every week.
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Maybe you deserve to suffer? Maybe you looked too hard into the chipmunk eyes, like I did in Tesco’s in Altrincham that time?
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fuck it 2-0
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Let it be known that I bet against a win as soon as the red card happened and was already composing a gloating post about the easiest £4 I'd ever made
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I concede I also thought a 0-0 draw was nailed on after the red card.
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All the right players, just not necessarily in the right order.
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Dreadful dive from Piergianni. Genuinely embarrassing
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Not when Young is shoved out on the left again...
Another Revball classic tonight.
Edit. What an idiot Eaves is. HAVE to win this now.
Edited by RockyBottom at 20:13:16 on 3rd December 2024
Edited by RockyBottom at 20:14:26 on 3rd December 2024
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Re: Match thread
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Seen more opportunities and actual crosses tonight which is pleasing but shame it's Young and List in those position rather than players who can cross ball to them in the middle.
List had a great opportunity to play it across early on and instead hit the side netting with a selfish shot.
Another occasion a great ball into the box which the defender almost put in his own net and if he hadn't got it Reid was there to tap in. That came from a forced long ball, but I'd like to see us choose to play that way.
Still trying to build up play from passing from defence through the middle and whilst it sometimes creates space for Kemp to make central runs it doesn't result in anything until the ball gets out wide, by which time the defence is set. A quick long ball out wide would give us that advantage of being able to put a cross in when not all their players are back.
Hey ho, that how Revs wants to play though so we just have to hope some players disobey.
At least against 10 men we might be able to score once.
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Re: Match thread
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List was electric in the first half. Playing him down the right was a success
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I'm sorry, but this is an absolute shambles. Doesn't look like we've changed anything at all tactically either, since they lost a man. I've seen pub sides pass the ball better than us.
If we don't win tonight v a woeful 10 men Northampton for 60 odd minutes, he has to go.
Edited by RockyBottom at 20:30:53 on 3rd December 2024
Edited by RockyBottom at 20:32:11 on 3rd December 2024
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That is a very silly post
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Think we have been alright tbh.
Northampton not had a sniff. The red card has done Revs no favours whatsoever.
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There's no intensity in our play. Every game should be treated like a cup final.
And after so few points, having a home game against not a great team, who now only have 10 men, we should be absolutely going for it.
And yet it's just the same low level intensity, comfortable football like its a friendly or a training match.
One shot on target.
Someone needs to motivate these players and give them some instructions that excite them. They all look so bored of playing.
Reckon Pidge will be off to Rotherham in January if Evans is still there.
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Re: Match thread
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Is this an issue about watching on tv? Stood on the East watching we had plenty of intensity, played well and deserved to win. Even better we stayed patient and broke them down eventually. And a top substitution.
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Re: Match thread
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I was on the East but happen to agree with Sev. I feel like we allowed them to sit deep because there was no variety in the way we attacked. They didn't exactly pack the midfield or anything, just pushed Tyler Roberts higher and kept Pinnock and Hoskins wide. And they were happy to venture forward when we gave the ball away so there were chances to get the ball forward quicker. As others have stated we are just very predictable and slow in how we play/attack
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Yes I noticed you on the East. You were picking your spots and drinking Tizer, whilst screaming SHOOOOOOOOTTTTT every 15 seconds.
I rest my case.
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I am sorry that my opinion is different to yours. Stay classy 👍
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It was an attempt at humour. Did you not find the constant imploring of 'shoot' annoying?
You explained yourself perfectly well, and you're totally entitled to your opinion. I have no class whatsoever.
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Ah my mistake. Yes, very much so. I admit, we do not shoot enough for my liking and Nathan actually struck a nice effort from outside the area in the first half but that CANNOT be the answer.
We need to get the ball in the box more often and provide some service for our strikers.
We have shown that we can play some pretty good stuff at times but everything is very slow and our players show little to no football intelligence in games to actually do anything other than what they have presumably been instructed to do
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I felt there was more intensity than recently, but it's fair to say it wasn't a brilliant performance by any stretch.
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Didn't realise Tizer was still going strong
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I was on the East as well - really close to the fight between Piergianni & Eaves in the 1st minute - and I agree with you.
I actually thought they did alright against a very packed defence. All 19 outfield players were compacted into Northampton’s half for most of the 2nd half so it was incredibly difficult to break them down. There were lots of half chances & it paid off in the end.
It doesn’t help when the crowd are screaming ‘shoot’ every time anyone gets near goal then moans when each attack breaks down. They’re trying to play good football.
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Could be. It felt like no atmosphere, no intensity, no tempo until the last 2 minutes of normal time.
List was the only bright spark in the first half. Nothing happened in the second half against a set defence, apart from at the end where we upped the tempo a bit and caught a tired and sluggish Northampton off guard.
Perhaps that was always the master plan.
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There must have been something happening on the East because I can assure you there was no intensity from where I was sat, particularly in the second half.
Shame we didn’t make the subs earlier.
Freeman should be getting more game time, particularly when the opposition had 10 men for much of the game.
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I was completely sober M8, which is a risk I rarely take when it comes to watching lower league football. I think I've merely adjusted my expectations.
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I prefer Freeman to White. He isn't afraid to shoot, use both feet and rarely gives the ball away when he takes risks.
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I read from the Comet guy that White had been tasked with improving his defensive game and to me it looks like he isn't really the one asked to be creative anymore, just offloads it to Kemp in front of him to do the creative stuff. (And passes sideways)
Hopefully when Phillips is back it's in place of White. Phillips and LT with Kemp just in front could be interesting, if we must play that way.
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He has been pretty shocking this season though, albeit mostly in brief cameos.
Last season I really rated him and wanted him to play more, as well as feeling sorry for him that he ws so often played to cover somebody else (at RB for instance), whereas this season he has been one of my biggest disappointments.
There seems to be quite the anti-White brigade developing too. I haven't seen anything from King to suggest he is any better or offers any more.
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I loved White when he first came and thought he could be the solution to our problems. He's been really poor this season though, but he's not the only one. Not sure many players are playing to their full potential.
Edited by RockyBottom at 09:05:32 on 4th December 2024
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I think that's unfair, he's had some really good games this season - against Wrexham in particular. He looked leggy last night though and as someone pointed out, gave away the ball in some quite dangerous positions.
I think most got on his back last night because of the inconsistent set pieces and because he was guilty of passing it between Thompson and Piergianni without trying to be more incisive repeatedly. King did well when he came on but I'm not sure a midfield without White offers much control on the ball
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White took the safe pass too often (instruction or confidence?).
And gave the ball away 2-3 times in what were potentially dangerous areas if Cobblers were interested in attacking.
I liked what I saw last season and in the first game or two of the season, thought he could make us tick this season, but was unimpressed.last might.
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I too thought he was an ambitious and really exciting signing who would come into his own this season with JFC sidelined. But overall he has been a huge disappointment. You feel there is a really footballer in there, but he forever takes the safe option. Time to give him a rest.
I also wonder if we have a rule where once you've scored from a free kick you aren't allowed to take them any more.
Young hit a wonder goal to win the game at Mansfield; White now takes every dead ball to very, very little effect.
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I used this exact phrase about White last night
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I’ve since read a couple of comments here from people who seem to have been in attendance, and was reminded that the views of my fellow boro fans are generally best avoided, particularly when times are a bit tough.
Actually pleased to hear Revs was mixing it at HT too. Getting busy is important. Hopefully channelling his mentor. We need to show some balls to stay up
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The game was interesting with plenty of zip & needle after the fight after 15 seconds but that red card has killed the game & the atmosphere. It all suddenly went flat.
The pace of Reid & List is looking threatening but we’re hitting so many long hopeful balls that keep drifting off it’s ridiculous!
Nathan Thompson is class but, him apart, it’s been really poor again
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We're really boring to watch. I don't know why we're not creating anything against 10 men
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Aye, all very pedestrian, Revs also got sent off at half time 🤦♂️
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Did he? Cuthbert was booked as well
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I don't think they even mentioned that on the TV commentary
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Just been clarified now. Was indeed sent off at half-time.
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There was me hoping he'd just decided to pack his bags at half time after another hopeless display.
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Doesn't say, Deano thinks it was in the tunnel at half time
https://x.com/StevenageFC/status/1864051483060097322?t=ewy9feSxgKviSMCmJjB0NQ&s=19
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Was it Northampton who were a bunch of pricks when they beat us the other year, when Evans was in charge.
They seem pretty dirty and nobbish.
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You'd hope now Northampton are down to 10 Revs will go with 2 up top and try and win the game. But maybe i'm just being innocent and naieve in not understanding the benefits of 4231 being the answer to every question this season.
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