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Good to see Cooper continue, Nathan and Pidge at CB and Luther/Butler at FB.
A solid base.
Louis and Roberts both start, Roberts owes us a good 90 minutes, its gonna be feisty and he needs to control his aggressive side.
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Go now Revs. Your time is up!
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On the way out of the stadium this seemed to be the general conversation among the fans.
They were also saying that was the most boring game of football ever played. How can we play as bad as an extremely poor Leyton Orient?
4 points off relegation now.
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Our most EVER clean sheets at this stage of a FL season, and our fewest EVER goals conceded at this stage in our League One history.
Up the Revs!
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I was pretty astonished that was only our third goalless game of the season, feels like more.
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We can thank the opposition for that though as we have failed to score in 7 of our league games. Also I note in the league we have only scored more than one goal in a game once.
And 5 of our 6 wins (in all comps) have been 1-0. I was OK with that.
Wycombe have scored more than 3 times the number of goals we have and we're only at the 15/16 game stage. Wycombe who are probably on a similar budget.
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Canāt score. Wonāt score #Revellgrim #Guffball #Grimball #Clueless
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Not great is it.
Orient worst team Ive seen this year and we didnt even look like scoring.
Dont see how Reid can start games anymore
Nathan Thompson class as usual though.
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He needs another striker with him. Norris, Rose, Hemmings etc..
Revs subbed Reidy for Simpson, when they should be playing together from the start.
Absolutely bonkers. This is anti-football.
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On 87mins. What impact is that going to make! A change, any change on 70 might have changed the dynamics of the game.
Game lived up to the moniker of ābore drawā
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Simpson will never, ever, make a League One footballer.
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I was quite disappointed to see theyād even let him into the ground, let alone put him on the bench.
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Maybe if they do a League One footballer Lego kit
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He's been off par this season, but is it any wonder with the service he gets.
Nothing wrong with our position in the table, it's pretty much what's expected, but the quality of football is mind numbingly awful.
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Just like it was the last time he was manager as wellā¦
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Iād say thereās a strong argument that he was outperforming his ability for six months last season rather than being off the boil this season.
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If Reid was missing 5 chances a game then you could criticise him, but he hasn't even had a chance to shoot or anything created for him whatsoever. And he's not a Ronaldo or Messi who can just create a goal from nothing.
So Reid is an unknown. I've no idea how good he is because he doesn't get the opportunity to be a striker.
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As you rightly say Reid just isn't getting the service, none of our strikers do! Always lumped forward hoping for Pidge to head goalwards...rarely does he score nowadays. When Reid does get a chance to score as from that little pass Kemp made on the edge of the area, first half, he fumbles and ties his legs in a knot.
That's not really Reid's fault, he was probably in shock that he had an opportunity. He just doesn't get many chances.
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Iād say arguably a lot of his goals for us have come from half chances. That said, the service at present is definitely not there and he has been shoved on to a wing at times as well.
I do think our fans need to temper their expectations of him based on half a good season however, especially as heās been out with a pretty serious medical issue too.
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Highlight
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Saw a nice Red Kite flying overhead
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This is like watching non league.
Revball is soul destroying.
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Some decent football played in Non-League. Not like this shit. If you weren't a diehard fan you wouldn't be hurrying back after today would you?
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Hell no, I'm a casual fan and voting with my feet already.
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At least i-follow is working, would hate to be missing this smorgasbord of silky skills.
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To give the players the benefit of doubt, on both sides, I don't think the wind is really helping the game as a spectacle...
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It was cold, wet and windy across the country yesterday but that didn't stop the likes of Shrewsbury, Stockport, Wycombe, Wrexham, Reading etc putting on some entertainment...
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I must admit, I didn't watch those matches.
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Exactly, what's the excuses for all our other games since we beat Mansfield last month?!
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We had an injury crisis in defence.
That is clearly why our midfield create nothing for our forwards to miss.
I don't do stats, my brain is wired wrong, but from the looks and sounds of it, not only do we not score, we also create fewer chances than almost any team in the EFL.
So why bother with 'creative' players? Just get a team of hoofers and big runners.
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That would be fine, if it was a one off.
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Play to the feet not in the Air
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There's no urgency whatsoever. You don't need good conditions to play our brand of football a bit quicker.
WE need to be beating teams around and below us at home whatever the conditions.
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You look at the lineup with Freeman, Kemp, Robbo and White in there and you don't think it's a load of artless cloggers. Yet what you get doesn't really take you much past Andy Bond tier.
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This is the worst I've seen for ages. No shape and no plan. Hoofball at best. We are unrecognisable from the team of last year, albeit with players who are capable of much much more
I've been patient, but I think the current management is out of its depth
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The board needs to be proactive rather than reactive.
We can see that the style hasn't changed. There are no signs of anything changing. We cannot create anything or score many goals.
We don't need to wait until we are in the relegation zone to make a positive change. We do it whilst we are still in a better position than a lot of the other sides.
The trouble is all the sides below us know they have to improve and will, whereas we will keep plodding along saying there's 4 teams below us until it's too late.
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I get to see 3-4 games live during December and early Jan.
But on the plus side I'm looking forward to some quality father daughter time and catching up with some friends.
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You can take them all to sample the delights of the new ET bar as well.
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So to be clear we should sack Revs now ? If he Banfield/Cuthbert are on rolling contracts assume we have to pay up to end is this season ,Perhaps doable but still costly for a club like us.
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Do we make an argument that Cuthbert is the reason our defensive record is so good? Or do we just bin them all off?
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I'd make an argument our defensive record is so good because our offensive record is so poor. We are sacrificing attacking football and goals for clean sheets.
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I agree, just wondered what others thought. It's all very familiar to Revs last spell in charge
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Absolutely. Yes. But Phil has a habit of letting things run too long.
Chose my grandson's third birthday party over today's match. Sounds like a better decision than any Rev has made this season.
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No the board should start looking for a suitable replacement now, and if there is one that is really good, then yes replace him.
If not, which is probably more likely, we see what happens in two winnable games against Northampton and Crawley. If we win them or get 4 points and there are signs of having learnt something and not just doing exactly the same thing every game, then we give him more time and go from there.
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I imagine Evans will be free again soon. The timing for Christmas could be perfect .
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Yeah, what we need to replace Revell is somebody doing worse than Revell, despite having a considerably better squad, full of players who got promoted from this division last season.
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Iām not necessarily saying I want him back, as such, only that when I study the tea leaves I can see it happening. As jayess says, Revellās game is not doing us any favours in the table and Evans was the person who reversed our previous decline. So Iām ambivalent about any potential return, but suspect it would improve where we are.
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And transformed this club in two fantastic seasons. Just sayin'. Stick with Revs and he'll take us back to where Evans found us.
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Transformed us and then watched it massively start to unravel, fell out with half the squad, oversaw a similar level of inability to score as we are currently seeing and saw us go five winless in the league (as we currently are under Revs) on three separate occasions, whilst bringing bullshit antics every game on the touchline and missing SEVEN matches in one season through suspension.
Please let us not forget all of that and pretend it was all wonderful under him and he would be great again, just like the final six months of his spell and the entirety of this season so far for him (I reiterate for all those moaning about Revs and saying we are going down, but wanting Evans back, we are above Evans).
#EvansNotIn
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Like Deltic, I'm ambivalent about Evans 2.0. I'm well aware of all the baggage. But I would take it any day rather than the dross being served up currently. Evans over Revell definitely, though I'm aware that's a low bar.
Back in the even worse old days I once travelled nearly 1000 miles without seeing us score a goal. I don't do the journeys like I used to, but I can see those days returning. We just don't do goals any more.
We built up some real momentum in the past two seasons, not least in the level of support, but it is disappearing. The less committed will vote with their feet, and it is all so bloody unnecessary.
We have a really good squad and, I suspect, our highest ever wage bill. Don't let it go to waste. Revs out. Now.
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Every club in the EFL will have their highest ever wage bill, so that alone is not reason to say we should be doing our best ever, all wages have shot up because of the new deal.
FWIW, did I want Revs as manager again in the summer? No. Do I believe he will push us on? No. Do I think we will go down this season? Absolutely not. Do I think he should be sacked now? No. We of course do not know exactly his remit, so don't know how he is performing against this.
Not that long ago we won ten points from five games and 13pts from seven games under Revs, including wins against Barnsley, Charlton, Wrexham and Mansfield. That was/is promotion form. But people were not saying that would last. By the same token nor should people be saying the current form will last. A season has rises and falls, that is football. Revs also has the most wins from their opening ten home games in League One of any manager we have ever had, and home games is where we make our money.
Revs has shown that he and this squad can win, and can beat the bigger/better sides. We are also in the FA Cup Second Round and qualified through the FLT group. So you could very much argue the season is going fairly well OVERALL so far, looking as a whole and not just the past month or so.
None of that is reason to sack him right now, he deserves longer to show he can get us back winning again. However, he is going to have to amend his approach if he wants much longer, because the style and lack of goals will lead to crowds falling, and that is when the board will take real notice (unless we drop into the drop zone prior to that). Playing one up front, creating very little and not really at any stage looking like we properly went for the win (despite being the more attacking of the two) at home to a very poor side, at home, is not going to do him any favours, and if it continues and he is let go, he can only have himself to blame.
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Chuds, I don't always agree with what you say but ,I agree with you here. Its always good to reflect in a Holistic way.
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So you don't believe he will push us on. (Nor do I)
But you want to keep him for now because we should just about survive. (You're more confident than me here)
You say we don't know his remit, (I think Wallace has been pretty clear, he expects us to be challenging for the playoffs).
Ambitious.
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Where did I say we would just about survive? We will stay up comfortably.
And what PW says to the fans in the summer when trying to sell ST, and what he says to the manager in private, I suspect are very different things.
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Comfortably is 7-10 points clear in my book. I fear we'll be closer to the drop zone than that for much of the remainder of the season.
Comfortably is 3 places clear of the drop. Are we really consistently better than 6 or so teams? Recent performances would suggest different and neither can be put down to a blip. [I accept we can beat some good teams too]
And of course what Phil said in Saturday's programme notes doesn't reflect precisely what he said to Revs. But he's been pretty consistent in saying he expects a challenge, and he'd be foolish to tell us all one thing whilst telling Revs he will (reluctantly) accept way less as the minimum.
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"Recent performances".
Have you not read anything I have said in this thread?
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Fuck no
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Comfortable is not checking how many points clear you are from 4th from bottom after every game, and hoping the sides in the bottom four drop points.
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If you are doing that after 16 games you have problems.
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Glad you can admit it.
Weirdo.
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Most of our fans are doing that at the moment. It gets posted on here after every game
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As Iāve said elsewhere, itās too soon. The baggage he left here is still here.
Heās very good at the clean up, siege mentality job. But the mess heād find here right now is partly of his own making.
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I didn't want Evans MK1.
Fair enough, he surprised me and did very well, until he lost interest at Christmas and upset everyone.
Don't want him back.
But also don't want to see us lose all the momentum and feel good factor we had, but it sadly looks to be heading that way.
I don't much care where we finish this season as long as it's in L1, but I do care that everyone is miserable and moaning because there's so little entertainment on offer most weeks. Where's the pashun?
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"until he lost interest at Christmas and upset everyone."
Funny how the memory plays tricks on you. In early February we were up to fifth in the table, having won three games in a row (including back to back away wins at Shrewsbury and Wigan).
After that we fell away, although we ended Feb with successive home victories. We had a poor January transfer window and subsequently the Vadaine Oliver experiment, Caskey's injury and Pidge's suspension put paid to the play offs.
I'm not making a case to reappoint Evans. But let's have it right. Overall it was a bloody brilliant season.
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That Shrewsbury away game we were dogshit and deserved nothing from the game. It was then I knew we would fade away.
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We have played 16 matches this season, we have scored 11 goals.
In Evans' final 16 league games we scored...12 goals.
This season we have won six matches in our opening 16 games.
In Evans' final 16 league games we won three games.
This season we have 19 points in our opening 16 matches.
In Evans' final 16 matches we won 15 points.
This season we have lost seven of our opening 16 games.
In Evans' final 16 games we lost seven times.
This season we have conceded 16 goals.
In Evans' final 16 games we conceded 16 goals.
But yeah, Evans was amazing, nobody wanted him out with such form, but Revs is dogshit and should be sacked despite better form.
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If Evans hadn't have got promotion the previous season and had such a good first half of the season then we would be calling for him to be sacked too, because it was crap from February. But one would give Evans the benefit of the doubt and that if he had stayed he would have rebuilt in the summer.
But Revs has continued the crap.
So I don't want Evans back, but not a defence to keep Revell.
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You canāt prove anything with FACTS on a football forum.
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I didn't say Evans was amazing, though the rest of his time here buys him some credit for the final third of last season.
Revs has no credit in the bank (in fact he owes us from his first spell) and a better squad to work with.
Comparing the two purely on that 16 game basis is pointless. As I've said before, I am not advocating Evans' return.
But Revs continues to prove that he is simply not up to it, and it is damaging.
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I disagree.
And don't see how comparing somebody you want sacked for their form versus somebody you claimed we are misremembering the end of and therefore suggesting they were still doing well at the end, is pointless.
Also, constantly saying it is our best ever squad doesn't matter when almost every other squad in the division is much better than previous years too.
But whatever, you (and many others who didn't want him) aren't ever going to change your mind on him, so we should just get it out of the way and sack him now, then get relegated when we cannot attract anybody remotely good, and who wants a mass turnover of staff and players, and all costs us loads of money in the process. BLEURGH.
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Can you do a comparison of our 1st 16 games last season compared to this? That would surely be more of a like for like comparison as to how we have started the season?
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There ain't no Evans and there never was!
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You can't just pick and choose the parameters for your stats to back up your position to simple folk.
That's why we have a Chudleigh.
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Very grown up, Chuds. What a shame the Oxford Union missed out on you.
You are skillful at twisting what I say. In the case of Evans I'm merely setting the record straight.
Revs fails on so many fronts. The results are crap and so is the football. Your glasses have such a heavy rose tint that it's a wonder you can see at all :) Good to have something to do on such a crappy day.
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Damn you, I was just editing and you replied!
What I was saying is that I was of course partly joking with the final point to be a little tinker, but that it is a genuine concern also.
Which isn't to say we just stick with Revs in case we cannot find better, but I fully maintain it is too soon and our season overall is not bad, for him to be sacked now. See where we are in Xmas as the earliest consideration, and see whether he has got us scoring and got us winning again.
I was setting straight your setting the record of Evans straight - that his ending (and 16 games is a third of a season) is actually worse than Revs' this season, so either Evans should have been sacked prior to leaving, or Revs shouldn't be sacked based on form this season ;).
And there is no rose tinting, as I said above, I didn't want Revs and don't believe he will take us forwards, but that doesn't mean he should be sacked right now IMO, he deserves more time. Since we got our actual defenders back we have shored up at the back again and are unbeaten. Now that is sorted, to work on the goals again.
Edit: To correct a couple of typos.
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Ha. You may have a point about the timing. I would be more optimistic if Revs gave me a glimmer of hope that he appreciates the problem and has some kind of plan to fix it. Potentially Reid and Young have goals in them, but not if we can't create chances. I am also concerned that those alongside Revs in the dugout are part of them problem (not KEEF obviously).
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Rumour has it that Revs is just holding the reins while Keef takes his badges.
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I'm not sure I'd want him back tbh
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Iām not necessarily saying I do. Only that the Christmas timing will work out. Evans will stagger through December whilst Revball gets duller and duller until the inevitable occurs.
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Itās good that we didnāt burn any bridges (at least publicly) when Evans went.
But itās far too soon for him to come back if Revs goes. Too much of his former squad are still here, that same squad that really tailed off and struggled to score goals before Evans had actually left this club.
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He should come in as advisor like when we had Wilkins and got better.
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FWIW If I was a gambling man I'd wager he won't be our manager by mid January, but all he has to do is win 2 of the next 3-4 to change the odds in his favour.
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Hard when your cbs give the ball away nearly everytime.
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Simpson is on now though... so all good for the late winner.
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It's like watching a Sampson team.
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This is another tough watch, a poor advert for League One football. Following a couple of promising moves in the first 5 minutes, we've created nothing.
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I didn't know the club was on Bluesky now. Nice one
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Not 100% sure its genuine... header photo and lack of links in bio, and they've put a hyphen between Stevenage and FC
this is for the luddites though...
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Awful crowd. These Sky games are killing us in terms of atmosphere.
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More like the pissing rain and the arctic wind!
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And the incredibly dull football.
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That wouldn't have put people off if it wasn't on TV.
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