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Crazy Decision

By Steve 197014/9 16:33Sat Sep 14 16:33:27 2024

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To make all 5 subs after 71 , 2 weeks after playing with 10 men for the last bit of the game against Lincoln. With injury time could be 27 minutes to go . Absolutely nuts that decision.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Tucks15/9 12:32Sun Sep 15 12:32:08 2024In response to Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I’d much rather have lost or drawn but not used all of our subs for sure.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197015/9 13:39Sun Sep 15 13:39:18 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Nah that’s silly

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:17Sat Sep 14 22:17:38 2024In response to Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Even after a very comfortable and dominant 3-0 win against a side at the top of the table, where Revs makes a change that immediately results in said player scoring, and yet he still gets criticised for his decisions, this bloody forum man!

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197015/9 13:46Sun Sep 15 13:46:16 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I’d say I’m one of the least to ever criticise the team or management. I have not actually done that here . The subs I spoke about were made on 71 minutes, not sure any of those players scored?

The point was not the subs , it was just a dislike of having 19 plus 5 to play with no subs left .

It’s purely that opinion.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Danny-da-Bass (Danny-da -Bass)15/9 19:22Sun Sep 15 19:22:55 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I actually agree with you and so at the time, it had its risks.

I would have used the subs to run the clock down or disrupt momentum if needed.

All irrelevent now UTB

Edited by Danny-da -Bass at 19:24:25 on 15th September 2024

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Pete (PeteH)15/9 08:15Sun Sep 15 08:15:33 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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this bloody forum man

Would argue this bloody forum is for facilitating any views - however contrasting.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Mocheeba15/9 08:16Sun Sep 15 08:16:26 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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At least celebrate first

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Jonnym814/9 19:07Sat Sep 14 19:07:09 2024In response to Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Was it not 4 subs?

Either way, all the subs played a part.

Well done Revs, credit where it’s due

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:18Sat Sep 14 22:18:18 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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List, Kemp and Louis T in particular were fantastic.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Owen B14/9 19:12Sat Sep 14 19:12:25 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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One sub at half time and then four on 70-odd minutes

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Clogger14/9 19:13Sat Sep 14 19:13:54 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Brave and logical decisions for me. Well done Revs

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Owen B14/9 19:15Sat Sep 14 19:15:42 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I don't disagree, but I also understand the point Steve1970 was making as it happened live

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Sev14/9 19:22Sat Sep 14 19:22:00 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I'd always want to keep one spare until after about 80th minute in case of keeper being sent off or injury.

If we had eleven men against Lincoln it may have helped get an equaliser at the end.

At 2 nil though I guess it wasn't that important.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:19Sat Sep 14 22:19:02 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I don't think we should ever make any substitutions until the 90th minute just in case.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By HitchinBoro exCalling (HitchinBoro exCalling)15/9 07:57Sun Sep 15 07:57:05 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Saw the Big Match revisited recently I think from 71 or 2 and only 1 sub allowed on bench .

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197015/9 07:10Sun Sep 15 07:10:05 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I disagree with that , I feel that’s a bit late to make a difference.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Sev14/9 22:29Sat Sep 14 22:29:05 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Most usually save one just to waste time/slow the game down in injury time.

Fuck it, make all five at half time.

Edited by Sev at 22:29:52 on 14th September 2024

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Clogger14/9 19:27Sat Sep 14 19:27:50 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I get it! It's clearly not a right/wrong situation, but a judgement call... and fair game for debate! Time's going to tell r.e. Revs' judgement!!!

But IMO Revs MkII is markedly different to the first stint. This is one example. The very, very encouraging, and very thoughtful transfer business is another. (Money helps, granted!) Early days, but I reckon there are positive signs. Fingers and toes crossed ;-)

Edited by Clogger at 19:28:28 on 14th September 2024

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:23Sat Sep 14 22:23:23 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Revs is entirely different to his first spell, in almost every respect. Absolutely no doubt about it.

W3 D2 L2 since taking charge again. Hardly a bad record is it? But "Revs out" and all that other fucking shit I was reading after Lincoln (today is no more of a gauge of him than the past few games - you cannot begin to start analysing until we are at least ten games into the season).

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Paulio16/9 06:05Mon Sep 16 06:05:28 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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You sound rattled.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Owen B14/9 19:34Sat Sep 14 19:34:38 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Oh yeah, I think we'll all be pleased (well, most of us) if Revell MkII does the business

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197014/9 19:44Sat Sep 14 19:44:19 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I totally agree that Rev 2 is looking much better, he looks much more in charge and all positive signs . I’d bring this up if anyone did these subs - Pep ( whoever) - just disagree with the decision to do it.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Ratman4614/9 19:38Sat Sep 14 19:38:01 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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We will and hopefully today is another match where he's shown what he and the squad can do. His after match interview today was spot on.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197014/9 17:41Sat Sep 14 17:41:28 2024In response to Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Anyway , just to be clear - great performance and really good subs , I just don’t like using all of them with a quarter of the game to go because it’s not unrealistic to pick up an injury in that time .

Great result though

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Mocheeba15/9 08:15Sun Sep 15 08:15:35 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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It was a fantastic result and another clean sheet making it 3 goals shipped in 5 games! I thought we’d win 2-1 but was pleasantly pleased with the second half.

I was saying at the time it was such a night and day performance across both halves. I don’t know if this was tactical intention?

First half heads down just lumping the ball forwards on a hope against their unit of a back line.
Second half we came out the block, got the ball down and played so really good stuff and honestly put Barnsley on the back foot, they didn’t know what to do.

We had 1 shot before the break and our first shot afterwards was after 6 minutes or so!

Is this a tactic to save energy, surprise opposition or something else do we think?

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Re: Crazy Decision

By jayess15/9 10:29Sun Sep 15 10:29:33 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I think it is a good example of the management realising something isn't working and changing our approach (something Revs has been criticised for in the past for failing to do). Scoring relatively early in the second half took the pressure/anxiety away.
For most of the first half I thought we were heading for a rerun of the Lincoln game, with balls aimlessly whacked forward. Reid makes a difference though, and on this occasion so did Roberts, though I'm never sure which JR is going to turn up. After the break we just got better and better – Freeman got further forward on the right, List stretched them and suddenly we looked like a team that could play a bit. The cavalry mostly showed really good energy, though I confess I can't see a League One footballer in Simpson.
I suspect Murphy is a very decent goalkeeper, but he gets so much protection from this back four it is hard to know.
Goode just might be our best signing since Pidge.
One result doesn't make a season; we need to build on this and get on the front foot earlier. But this is surely the best squad we have ever had.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By BedsBoro (peanut)15/9 11:02Sun Sep 15 11:02:27 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I think Barnsley kept it pretty tight too in the first half. You could see our players looking for options before resorting to booting it down the line but as others have said Revs clearly worked that out at half time, so all credit to him.

5 or 6 players were fantastic yesterday but Roberts was my MOTM. When he's playing like that we invariably play well. If he did it more regularly he wouldn't be playing in League One!

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Re: Crazy Decision

By RockyBottom14/9 16:34Sat Sep 14 16:34:19 2024In response to Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Some you can understand, but I'd certainly have kept one back!

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197014/9 16:36Sat Sep 14 16:36:18 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Yep , no problem with 3 coming on but definitely save one in case of injury

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:26Sat Sep 14 22:26:05 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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We very rarely pick up injuries in games, and even less rarely do so in the final 15 minutes.

Just because it happened against Lincoln doesn't mean we should be resistant to make decisions in case it happens again, when the overriding likelihood is it won't (as it didn't).

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Sev14/9 22:33Sat Sep 14 22:33:27 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I wonder how many occasions across the leagues that all 5 subs are made by 73 minutes. I'd hazard a guess at less than 50%.

Just because Revs spoke to you at end of season awards and you gazed into his pretty eyes and fell in love doesn't mean he's always right.

Granted I don't why we are arguing over subs when we won 3 nil but hey it's borochat.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Steve 197015/9 07:04Sun Sep 15 07:04:06 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I’d hazard a guess at less than 2 percent.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 22:46Sat Sep 14 22:46:15 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I wasn't at the end of season awards, I headed straight off at FT to watch the Waders clinch the title.

Edit: It is irrelevant whether the subs have been made or not. The point is how often we pick up injuries, especially at the end or games. If it is very rarely (which it is) then there is no reason for us to hold off making a substitution just in case it happens, when it hardly ever does.

Edited by Chuds at 22:48:05 on 14th September 2024

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Sev14/9 22:54Sat Sep 14 22:54:42 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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The previous year. I was there when you spent half an hour swooning over him and Nick was very drunk.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Chuds14/9 23:19Sat Sep 14 23:19:58 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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I was swooning over Pidge.

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Re: Crazy Decision

By Clogger14/9 19:21Sat Sep 14 19:21:04 2024In response to Re: Crazy Decision Top of thread

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Revs will know the odds on picking up injuries. It'll be a calculated decision - risk vs benefit. Plus tired players are susceptible to injury, risking their next few weeks! It worked today; didn't work out against Lincoln. C'est la vie.

Getting game time for as many players as possible has to be good for morale. Win bonuses etc. Feeling part of success is always good.

FWIW it's clear that Revs has learned from Evans' *exceptional* game management. That's got to be a positive.

Edited by Clogger at 19:21:13 on 14th September 2024
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