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England v Swizzerland
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I think Garth will have to change his tactics this evening. Lulling the opponents into a false sense of winning by playing shit, then hitting them with a last second hammer blow probably won't work again..
An unchanged starting XI will do the trick. 2-0 to England.
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Holland in the semis
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Rather them than the Turks. More of a premiership style of football.
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Southgate the boring bastard,looks to have had England set up not to win it's like he's not been bothered about the tournament at all.
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And yet here he is into yet another semi-final.
He is expert at progressing in tournament football.
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Won more knock out games than every other manager since 1962 combined.
But christ he's a tactical fun sponge.
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I was asked earlier in the tournament if I would take Boro' playing like that and winning some games 1-0, drawing some 0-0 and 1-1 and losing some 1-0, but being successful. My answer was a definite yes.
If England played a more open and expansive style I am really not so sure they would be progressing through the tournament as they have done (look at the Dutch when they lost to Austria, and against Turkey now, for instance), especially with the defence Southgate has to work with, and people would be moaning that England are out. The guy literally cannot win unless he wins the whole thing, and he is setting up in the best way to do that.
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Great. Send a memo to Revs to play this way next season. Chuds won’t moan, he will under stand that Revs can’t win. Chuds will be happy
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If we regularly win why would I not be happy?
As a neutral you would want to be entertained. As a committed fan of the club you want results first and foremost.
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In club football Southgate wouldn’t get away with it. Anyone who thinks Southgate is a credible manager knows nothing about football. Come at me with all the stats you want. This England team wins in spite of him not because of him
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Even though every other team of players prior to this, including our "Golden Generation" has failed to do so?
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They came up against better opposition in earlier rounds
2002- Brazil
2004 - Portugal
2006 - Portugal
All quarter finals
Compared to
Sweden, Ukraine, France
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You've conveniently forgotten beating Germany in the 2nd round in 2021 or one of the teams of the tournament in Denmark in the semi
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Southgate is shit because we only lose to teams that are better than us?
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No, his record shows that when we have come up against the "bigger" nations we have lost, just like the Golden generation did?
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As noted elsewhere, Portugal despite having Figo, Cronaldo and Deco conspired to play like absolute pricks and were probably weaker on paper 11v11.
Sven and Capello with a wealth of experience failed to get past QFs with likes of Ashley Cole whilst Southgate had Ashley Young, Terry for Maguire, Gerrard and Lampard for Kalvin Phillips and Hendo.
It's only really this tournament where he has three or four established world class players and that's with a defence made out of paper clips and rubber bands and he's made at least the semis again.
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All the funnier when they lost the final to Greece.
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The same France that were defending Champions who only lost the final on penalties?
That 2004/06 Portugal team had some good players but were hardly world-beaters (losing the Euro final to Greece).
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Yes that France - that’s the point, we met someone decent in the quarters and lost.
Portugal got to the final - therefore there were decent - Ronaldo etc
Your post backs up what I’ve just said
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Probably Southgate’s fault that we haven’t had harder games than Ukraine and Sweden.
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I look forward to you taking over after him and using your expertise to lead these players to World Cup glory in 2026.
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No we should get some one in who's crap apparently the players may succeed despite this.Not sure why clubs don't start doing it
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We already tried this with Sheringham……
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I can assure you, from years of knowing him, jonnym8 know nothing about football, his thinking Jake Hyde played against Cambridge with Dabo just about sums his knowledge and his attention up ☺️
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Mad that this team get through to finals and semi finals in spite of him, yet none of the teams before seemed to manage to be able to do that.
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As a matter of interest so do you think it would be better if he wasn't there at all , do the players listen to him or follow his instructions , ?
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I think they listen to him.
Football teams are a reflection of their manager.
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Tournament football is different to club football.
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England are storing up a massive thumping. Could be them inflicting it on another - could be another inflicting it upon them. Based on what has gone before this tournament, it won't be the former.
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Also manager for 3 out of the 4 penalty shootouts that England have won (2 of these against Switzerland).
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Has zero to do with the manager
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Lolz.
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Gets the job done. Destiny will always take over
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Tournament football. Winning > exciting fancy tactics.
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To be fair we should beat Swiss. They have a population of 2 million. So a much smaller pool of players to pick from compared to Englands 90 million.
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Garth is a master of brinksmanship
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I'm glad I've jinxed it.
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Great line up. We can’t lose with Garth’s tactical master stroke
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Except even with the formation everyone told him to play, he still managed to fuck it up by keeping Saka on the right and Trippier on the left. It's like he wants to lose.
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Lolz.
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Bring on Foden at half time we will see if he’s improved
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Garth is lulling them into a false sense of security
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Genius. Make a sub and we score instantly. Knows exactly how to manage a game. Boing boing.
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Three SFs (and a QF) in the last four tournaments. Outstanding record from Southgate.
And had he not played Saka as wingback on the right, despite everyone saying he should have played on the left, Saka wouldn't have been able to score his goal.
Perfect management. Well in Gareth.
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Absolutely spot on from him tonight, and great substitutions.
Another final for Southgate. Man knows how to do it in tournament football. Anybody care about the draw against Slovenia now?
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Singlehandedly won it by subbing off a 35 goal megastar when it was the right thing to do. One win or 120 minutes and pens away from being indisputably the greatest England manager of all time.
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He got a lucky draw. Didn't deserve to get out of our group. 🥱
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Arguably, he wouldn't have needed to if the team had been more balanced from the outset.
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Saka was easily the best player on the pitch, in a large part thanks to who he was up against, so I think Southgate got it absolutely spot on today on playing him on the right.
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Bang one. The most underrated manager of our generation.
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Agreed. He's a thinker, a logical manager who knows what to do and when.
Unfortunately, the majority of the English public want all out attack with a 'character' as a manager on the sidelines.
Thank fuck Big Sam had that pint of wine.
Edited by SFCfox at 21:47:09 on 6th July 2024
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He’s great isn’t he.
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He is brilliant isn’t he.
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The omes that should have been made 30 mins before.
Edited by RockyBottom at 19:02:57 on 6th July 2024
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He is so cool
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They've got to hold and give, but do it at the right time. They can be slow or fast, but they must get to the line.
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Tease everyone into thinking we’re going all out attack and then stick with our effective game and win 1-0 job done.
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Rumours of 3 at the back like I suggested
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😔 We can't start unchanged a Gheri suspended
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